conda-forge core meeting 2022-11-16

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Attendees

Name	Initials	GitHub ID	Affiliation
Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra	JRG	jaimergp	Quansight/cf
Eric Dill	EDD	ericdill	cf
Daniel Ching	DJC	carterbox	Argonne
Marcel Bargull	MB	mbargull	Bioconda/cf
Matthew R Becker	MRB	beckermr	cf
Dave Clements	DPC	tnabtaf	Anaconda
Cheng H. Lee	CHL	chenghlee	Anaconda/cf
Jannis Leidel	JL	jezdez	Anaconda/cf
Katherine Kinnaman	KK	kathatherine	Anaconda
John Kirkham	JK	jakirkham	NVIDIA/cf
Travis Hathaway	TH	travishathaway	Anaconda 🐍
Marius van Niekerk	MvN	mariusvniekerk	cf
Wolf Vollprecht	WV	wolfv	prefix.dev / cf
Amit Kumar	AK	aktech	Quansight / cirun

18 people total

Standing items

intros for new folks on the call
- Amit Kumar - helping setup GPU server for CF. Jaime pulled me in.
- Kyle - director of engineering for package building teams at anaconda
open votes
- (JRG) Python 3.10.7 and friends https://github.com/conda-forge/python-feedstock/pull/579#issuecomment-1291847544
  - will circle back to this at the end of the call
  - Action item: Jaime to write announcement
- (JRG) Status on staged-recipes application(s)?
  - https://github.com/orgs/conda-forge/teams/core/discussions/12 + another member
  - Action item: FF to take over

From previous meeting(s)

Your new() agenda items

DJC: What is policy for publishing forks of packages? - [ ] Two pull requests on staged-recipes for forks of a presumably abandoned package; both want to keep the name of the upstream package - [ ] https://github.com/orgs/conda-forge/teams/staged-recipes/discussions/8 - [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/pull/20669 - [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/pull/17965 - Marcel: complicated topic. we shuold talk more in-depth about this in an async issue - will the packages clobber each other if they're both installed? guidance: - must have: dont clobber existing code (run_constrained example) - options: - rebrand your fork - inject your github user name (where the fork lives) into the packge / feedstock name - talk to upstream and take over the fork / feedstock
- TODO: adjust PR template to address fork naming

requirements:
  run_constrained:
    sdsl-lite <0.a0

(MB) Adding a Perl package maintainers team

Pushed to next meeting

results of staged-recipes reviewer vote
- We had 33 people invited to vote, 25 core, 8 emeritus. only 14 voted and they all seem like active core.
(JRG) Support for abi3 Python packages with abi3audit checks?
- https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/11/15/python-wheels-abi-abi3audit/
(DPC) Should we shut down conda-forge@googlegroups.com at the same time we shut the conda google group mailing list (which is the end of the year)?

Active votes

staged-recipes reviewers vote is live, i think?
cfep-21 license packages for static/header libraries
- Opened July 25, 2022 ends August 2, 2022

CFEPs

cfep-12 Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
- Stalled since May 26, 2020
- Active debate about moving to "broken" vs deleting from conda-forge channel
- Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
- What were the results of the vote?
- Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded

TODOs

2022-06-15

(MvN) vs2022 compiler support
- Initial stab at some pieces https://github.com/conda-forge/vc-feedstock/pull/46
- This is a new VC version
  - Uses existing UCRT
- Would need to use the windows-2022 github actions image
- TODO: follow on to change the name of the runtime to vc_runtime
- TODO: will need patches for msys epoch for UCRT
- (CHL) For reference: msys2 environments - pick your own compiler + libstdc++ + Windows runtime adventure
- https://www.msys2.org/docs/package-naming/
- (RG) "we need some version of mingw-w64 for SciPy 1.9.0 too, MSVC + gfortran will no longer work. we use an Rtools toolchain in CI now"
(CHL) How does conda-forge use channeldata.json?
- Only known use by c-f: counting # of package namespaces for "By the numbers" on the webpage; other uses deprecated
- TODO: CEP to deprecate & remove --use-channeldata from conda-build
- TODO: CEP to add run exports to repodata.json

2022-04-05

TODO: Articulate suggested mechanism for "so you're thinking about taking a contract to work on conda-forge". tl;dr is you should work on a design doc with the impacted parties (or working groups, or interested folks) on the conda-forge side. Once you have agreement on the scope, delivery timeline, and anything that's needed from the conda-forge volunteer side, go ahead and sign that contract with your payer. if you don't do this first, you may encounter some difficulties finishing delivery of your contractual agreement with your payer.

2022-01-12

review Qt PR after logs are uploaded
Add cupython and cuquantum to don't mirror list (MRB done)
re: std=c++14, Wait for Kai to comment and merge the PR
CJ and Jaime coordinate to Let Maxiconda know that we can't use their logo 2021-12-01
WV: Set up meet-and-greet call with homebrew team?
MRB: (repodata patches) make a cron job that runs show_diff.py and posts an issue + commit if it is non-empty

2021-11-03

Self-hosting CI TODOs:
- Change URL from drone.conda-forge.org. Proposals:
  - woodpecker.conda-forge.org
  - ci.conda-forge.org
- Set up monitoring
  - Quantstack is setting up grafana for the mirror

2021-10-18

2021-09-22

(WV): TensorFlow-GPU ready to go, just need to decide if GPU should get prio over CPU?!
- GPU gets prio

2020-11-18

(IF/MRB/MV) intel oneAPI
- todo
  - (Nikolay) licensing for opencl_rt
  - (Nikolay) intelmpi ABI compat w/ mpich
  - (MRB/IF) figure out how exactly to package C/C++ compilers
  - (MRB/IF) think about fortran ABI
  - (MRB) make conda-forge compilers room (add people including keith)
(MB) asking core members to move to "emeritus" status
- TODO: Eric to set up quarterly check-in for all core members to see if they're interested in remaining "active" or if they want to move to emeritus
  - Remove emeritus folks from having access to various credentials (api tokens, twitter password, etc.)? This would require a change to the governance doc.

2020-11-11

TODO: Think about bringing in JOSS to provide context around how we might best write papers

2020-11-03

TODO: Check on Forrest Watters permissions for core

2020-10-28 2020-10-21

(Marius?) Python 2.7 migration
- ( ) [ ] make a hint
- ( ) [ ] make an announcement
- ( ) [ ] make the hint a lint

2020-10-07

Make sure to add the NVBug info to the cudatoolkit package that conda-forge makes (if we make one)

2020-09-09

(ED) Update governance docs with similar voting model as what got put into conda-tools (+3 with no -1 is a pass)
(SC) Write jinja template to turn institutional partners yaml into a website https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/blob/2a2d3caaf7d74eb370ac40c679ba337a73d15c8a/src/inst_partners.yaml
(SC) Document what needs to be done to create an OVH account and get access

2020-08-26 Docker hub

(JK) Check in on Azure build workers to see if they have the docker hub limitation.
(JK) work with dockerhub to see if we can get OSS status
- Check in again at some point. We haven't heard back as of 2020-09-23

OVH

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